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	<title>Comments on: Congressman Peter T. King&#8217;s latest work of fiction: the Muslim Radicalization Hearings</title>
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		<title>By: dave r</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter T King&#039;s claim that the IRA have never attacked Americans is completely untrue. A number of US citizens have been killed or injured in IRA terrorist bombings in Europe and US business interests have been severely damaged.
 King is being disingenuous and deliberately dishonest when he makes that claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter T King&#8217;s claim that the IRA have never attacked Americans is completely untrue. A number of US citizens have been killed or injured in IRA terrorist bombings in Europe and US business interests have been severely damaged.<br />
 King is being disingenuous and deliberately dishonest when he makes that claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Naham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joey Naham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This hopefully hits you. (It&#039;s 100% Factual, and I&#039;m personally involved with this story). 
The news recently is revolving around &quot;News of the World&quot; corrupt wiretapping into private citizens phones.  My story is on a politician that wiretapped Me, and shut down city council meetings for the soul reason that I was going to be present, and is also exclusively interviewed by Rupert Murdoch&#039;s Fox News. 

The Owner of Fox News has subsidiaries involved in wiretapping governmental officials and PRIVATE Citizens. Simultaneously there have been government officials who have exclusively only been consulted by, or interviewed by Fox News. A baren fixture of this is my representative (Not by choice) Rep. Peter King (Monarchist,...I mean Republican). 

This politician (Not a leader) Mr. King, on the topic of wiretapping, was recently quoted saying: &quot;It&#039;s a Disgrace, it&#039;s wrong to hack into anyone&#039;s phone. but especially at a time of the worst national disaster in the history of our country.&quot; 
But the domino didn&#039;t start with Rupert Murdoch&#039;s other foreign presses. . There is a symbiosis of corruption between Fox News and Peter King (Who happens to be the Chairman of The Dept. of Homeland Security). If you want to see what Rep. King&#039;s office wiretapping of my phones, and other tyrannical suppressive actions he&#039;s caused, look down this rabbit&#039;s hole (By The way, Rep. King denotes that wiretapping is a disgrace affiliated with national disasters, but when I candidly invoke a national disaster for my government to observe gun control regulation, I&#039;m immediately wiretapped.) : http://gabbigiffords.blogspot.com/

The letter from the officer who was present at the ilegal search and seizure is completely authentic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This hopefully hits you. (It&#8217;s 100% Factual, and I&#8217;m personally involved with this story).<br />
The news recently is revolving around &#8220;News of the World&#8221; corrupt wiretapping into private citizens phones.  My story is on a politician that wiretapped Me, and shut down city council meetings for the soul reason that I was going to be present, and is also exclusively interviewed by Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s Fox News. </p>
<p>The Owner of Fox News has subsidiaries involved in wiretapping governmental officials and PRIVATE Citizens. Simultaneously there have been government officials who have exclusively only been consulted by, or interviewed by Fox News. A baren fixture of this is my representative (Not by choice) Rep. Peter King (Monarchist,&#8230;I mean Republican). </p>
<p>This politician (Not a leader) Mr. King, on the topic of wiretapping, was recently quoted saying: &#8220;It&#8217;s a Disgrace, it&#8217;s wrong to hack into anyone&#8217;s phone. but especially at a time of the worst national disaster in the history of our country.&#8221;<br />
But the domino didn&#8217;t start with Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s other foreign presses. . There is a symbiosis of corruption between Fox News and Peter King (Who happens to be the Chairman of The Dept. of Homeland Security). If you want to see what Rep. King&#8217;s office wiretapping of my phones, and other tyrannical suppressive actions he&#8217;s caused, look down this rabbit&#8217;s hole (By The way, Rep. King denotes that wiretapping is a disgrace affiliated with national disasters, but when I candidly invoke a national disaster for my government to observe gun control regulation, I&#8217;m immediately wiretapped.) : <a href="http://gabbigiffords.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://gabbigiffords.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>The letter from the officer who was present at the ilegal search and seizure is completely authentic.</p>
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		<title>By: golem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;chip in the butt&quot; thing pisses me off...

Too many people go &quot;Hahaha, McVeigh thought he had a chip in his butt!&quot;

I say, &quot;Yeah, and the government damaged him so badly that he believed he had a chip in his butt.&quot;

It&#039;s like Loughter: &quot;Hahaha, he thought he was being watched...&quot;

Yeah, and the media and government screaming constantly &quot;we can watch you...&quot; Yep, that doesn&#039;t feed those kinds of thoughts irresponsibly.

If someone gets hurt, isolated or traumatized, those thoughts happened.  H-ll, they happened to Doestoevsky, the famous Russian author.  He writes extensively about the experience in &quot;Notes from Underground.&quot;  And laughing at people for having those natural thoughts worsens the situation horribly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;chip in the butt&#8221; thing pisses me off&#8230;</p>
<p>Too many people go &#8220;Hahaha, McVeigh thought he had a chip in his butt!&#8221;</p>
<p>I say, &#8220;Yeah, and the government damaged him so badly that he believed he had a chip in his butt.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like Loughter: &#8220;Hahaha, he thought he was being watched&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and the media and government screaming constantly &#8220;we can watch you&#8230;&#8221; Yep, that doesn&#8217;t feed those kinds of thoughts irresponsibly.</p>
<p>If someone gets hurt, isolated or traumatized, those thoughts happened.  H-ll, they happened to Doestoevsky, the famous Russian author.  He writes extensively about the experience in &#8220;Notes from Underground.&#8221;  And laughing at people for having those natural thoughts worsens the situation horribly.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[K. Judge, thank you for the article.  It brings up many interesting points and questions about unknown factors related to Timothy McVeigh&#039;s case

Would I discount outright that Timothy McVeigh had connections to Muslim terrorists?  No.  I wouldn&#039;t say he did, either.  We simply don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s one of the reasons that I&#039;m against the death penalty.  We could learn more if Timothy McVeigh was still alive.

Timothy McVeigh&#039;s case does highlight how untruths and lies can keep people sick.

For example, he fought in the First Gulf War.  We now know that a lot of the things the government claimed - for example, that they were using &quot;computerized&quot; targeting systems to send those bombs down chimmneys, when it&#039;s now fairly common knowledge that humans carrying laser sights show those missles where to go - about the First Gulf War were untrue.  McVeigh knew the truth about how we conduct war and how over-reaching and abusive the government could be.  

Not finding people to listen to him, and being treated as though these very real facts were fiction may have fed his non-bizarre paranoid fixations, such as his belief that the government had implanted a chip in him to keep an eye on him.  

But I don&#039;t discount things I can&#039;t know outright - like the article you posted.  Was he connected to Muslim extremists?  I don&#039;t think so, but I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s impossible.

Thanks for the article,

Joan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K. Judge, thank you for the article.  It brings up many interesting points and questions about unknown factors related to Timothy McVeigh&#8217;s case</p>
<p>Would I discount outright that Timothy McVeigh had connections to Muslim terrorists?  No.  I wouldn&#8217;t say he did, either.  We simply don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s one of the reasons that I&#8217;m against the death penalty.  We could learn more if Timothy McVeigh was still alive.</p>
<p>Timothy McVeigh&#8217;s case does highlight how untruths and lies can keep people sick.</p>
<p>For example, he fought in the First Gulf War.  We now know that a lot of the things the government claimed &#8211; for example, that they were using &#8220;computerized&#8221; targeting systems to send those bombs down chimmneys, when it&#8217;s now fairly common knowledge that humans carrying laser sights show those missles where to go &#8211; about the First Gulf War were untrue.  McVeigh knew the truth about how we conduct war and how over-reaching and abusive the government could be.  </p>
<p>Not finding people to listen to him, and being treated as though these very real facts were fiction may have fed his non-bizarre paranoid fixations, such as his belief that the government had implanted a chip in him to keep an eye on him.  </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t discount things I can&#8217;t know outright &#8211; like the article you posted.  Was he connected to Muslim extremists?  I don&#8217;t think so, but I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s impossible.</p>
<p>Thanks for the article,</p>
<p>Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J. Nash: to paraphrase Kanye West: &quot;Why do you hate white people?&quot;

Hypocrites piss me off too, as do extremists on both the left and the right. They start out with a point or points worth pondering, then have to go overboard and dramatic. All people of all races and all religions have a moral obligation to curb the excesses of the extremis element in their particular group by vociferously condemning them. That&#039;s my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. Nash: to paraphrase Kanye West: &#8220;Why do you hate white people?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hypocrites piss me off too, as do extremists on both the left and the right. They start out with a point or points worth pondering, then have to go overboard and dramatic. All people of all races and all religions have a moral obligation to curb the excesses of the extremis element in their particular group by vociferously condemning them. That&#8217;s my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: K.Judge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Judge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And when people edit their comments, or make snide remarks at them, they have the perception that the world is full of spectors and shadows that are against them that they just can’t quite grasp.&quot; Joan said think of Timothy McVeigh well i did and here you go...http://www.patriotledger.com/homepage/breaking/x1777801225/Author-links-man-arrested-in-Quincy-to-the-subject-of-her-book-on-Oklahoma-City-bomb-ing#axzz1GOh0mypj. 


Your right people can&#039;t always grasp what they are looking for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And when people edit their comments, or make snide remarks at them, they have the perception that the world is full of spectors and shadows that are against them that they just can’t quite grasp.&#8221; Joan said think of Timothy McVeigh well i did and here you go&#8230;<a href="http://www.patriotledger.com/homepage/breaking/x1777801225/Author-links-man-arrested-in-Quincy-to-the-subject-of-her-book-on-Oklahoma-City-bomb-ing#axzz1GOh0mypj" rel="nofollow">http://www.patriotledger.com/homepage/breaking/x1777801225/Author-links-man-arrested-in-Quincy-to-the-subject-of-her-book-on-Oklahoma-City-bomb-ing#axzz1GOh0mypj</a>. </p>
<p>Your right people can&#8217;t always grasp what they are looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Nash</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Nash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I threw it out there - an example:

&quot;45.Also, food for thought: if someone came on here and dropped the n-word then in a follow-up comment said that their mother was robbed and killed by a black guy, would they not be subject to being called out on their racism by Cihan or anyone else because of their pain?&quot;

The &quot;n-word&quot; is just a word, Kevin.  Using it or not using it does not make you more or less a racist.

Saw a couple of posts around here suddenly on the horrors of white supremecy, and why we have to watch &quot;them.&quot;

Nobody seems to give a sh-t, however, that we have a fundementally racist and classist system in this country.

Pretty image of a black president?  To me it&#039;s like the choice of using or not using the n-word - has nothing to do with racism or the problems of racism and classism in this country.

Do you know what do?

How about the institutionalized racism of 1 out of 6 blacks in our country spend time in jail?

How about if you kill a white man, you&#039;re far more likely to be put to death for that crime than if you kill a black man?

How about Katrina?

I think blacks in America have a whole heck of a lot more to fear from these institutionalized policies than whether or not some poor white is confused about who or what screwed him.  Or what word he uses.

Just a thought,

jack]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I threw it out there &#8211; an example:</p>
<p>&#8220;45.Also, food for thought: if someone came on here and dropped the n-word then in a follow-up comment said that their mother was robbed and killed by a black guy, would they not be subject to being called out on their racism by Cihan or anyone else because of their pain?&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;n-word&#8221; is just a word, Kevin.  Using it or not using it does not make you more or less a racist.</p>
<p>Saw a couple of posts around here suddenly on the horrors of white supremecy, and why we have to watch &#8220;them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nobody seems to give a sh-t, however, that we have a fundementally racist and classist system in this country.</p>
<p>Pretty image of a black president?  To me it&#8217;s like the choice of using or not using the n-word &#8211; has nothing to do with racism or the problems of racism and classism in this country.</p>
<p>Do you know what do?</p>
<p>How about the institutionalized racism of 1 out of 6 blacks in our country spend time in jail?</p>
<p>How about if you kill a white man, you&#8217;re far more likely to be put to death for that crime than if you kill a black man?</p>
<p>How about Katrina?</p>
<p>I think blacks in America have a whole heck of a lot more to fear from these institutionalized policies than whether or not some poor white is confused about who or what screwed him.  Or what word he uses.</p>
<p>Just a thought,</p>
<p>jack</p>
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		<title>By: J. Nash</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Nash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my book?

Nobody doesn&#039;t get &quot;called out&quot; in my book.  Hypocrites piss me off.

Although, truthfully... I tend to be polite to the owner of the blog and don&#039;t really go into what I think of them...

jack]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my book?</p>
<p>Nobody doesn&#8217;t get &#8220;called out&#8221; in my book.  Hypocrites piss me off.</p>
<p>Although, truthfully&#8230; I tend to be polite to the owner of the blog and don&#8217;t really go into what I think of them&#8230;</p>
<p>jack</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Marshall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, food for thought: if someone came on here and dropped the n-word then in a follow-up comment said that their mother was robbed and killed by a black guy, would they not be subject to being called out on their racism by Cihan or anyone else because of their pain?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, food for thought: if someone came on here and dropped the n-word then in a follow-up comment said that their mother was robbed and killed by a black guy, would they not be subject to being called out on their racism by Cihan or anyone else because of their pain?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Marshall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Jack&lt;/strong&gt; - Agreed on all points, except:



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Cihan’s comment mocking someone who lost loved ones in 9/11 got through. Not cool, in jack’s opinion.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have to take great umbrage with that assertion.

Nobody&#039;s making fun of his pain, but rather his racism and ignorance, which is fair game once he not only puts it out there but then insists on pressing the issue.

Plenty of people lost loved ones, friends, and family in 9/11 and don&#039;t go around spewing what he spews. He didn&#039;t mention anything about losing loved ones until he got called out for the rejected comment (which included no reference to it). As such, we don&#039;t even know if this guy&#039;s telling the truth about that or just using it as a convenient excuse for racism (it is the internet, after all).

However, let&#039;s take him at his word: so he can&#039;t be mocked for spewing hate and ignorance because of those circumstances?

No, that&#039;s BS. Sorry. You don&#039;t get to drop that as a get out of jail free card.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jack</strong> &#8211; Agreed on all points, except:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Cihan’s comment mocking someone who lost loved ones in 9/11 got through. Not cool, in jack’s opinion.&#8221;
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<p>I have to take great umbrage with that assertion.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s making fun of his pain, but rather his racism and ignorance, which is fair game once he not only puts it out there but then insists on pressing the issue.</p>
<p>Plenty of people lost loved ones, friends, and family in 9/11 and don&#8217;t go around spewing what he spews. He didn&#8217;t mention anything about losing loved ones until he got called out for the rejected comment (which included no reference to it). As such, we don&#8217;t even know if this guy&#8217;s telling the truth about that or just using it as a convenient excuse for racism (it is the internet, after all).</p>
<p>However, let&#8217;s take him at his word: so he can&#8217;t be mocked for spewing hate and ignorance because of those circumstances?</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s BS. Sorry. You don&#8217;t get to drop that as a get out of jail free card.</p>
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