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	<title>Comments on: Fountain Day 2011 cancellation: overreaction or necessary sacrifice?</title>
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		<title>By: Firebrand</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Firebrand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Understood Kevin.  True the tax contribution amounts to relatively nill, but it&#039;s the principle of it all.  That being, until they are paying for anything and everything on their own, everything they get is a privaledge not a right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood Kevin.  True the tax contribution amounts to relatively nill, but it&#8217;s the principle of it all.  That being, until they are paying for anything and everything on their own, everything they get is a privaledge not a right.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Marshall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to play into the &quot;your tax dollars&quot; back and forth (because honestly much of it I find to be a load of false equivalence not to mention pedantic), but to not do Fountain Day is still cheaper than to do it (over $40,000).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to play into the &#8220;your tax dollars&#8221; back and forth (because honestly much of it I find to be a load of false equivalence not to mention pedantic), but to not do Fountain Day is still cheaper than to do it (over $40,000).</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6705</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you 104.  One hundred % correct.  I WOULD rather cut my losses on this one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you 104.  One hundred % correct.  I WOULD rather cut my losses on this one</p>
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		<title>By: seriously?</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seriously?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[exhibit A as to why these outraged students should go after their peers instead of the media:

Student (I give him my utmost respect for the fact that he is a veteran) plans to shackle himself to the fountain to force Glen Beck to apologize and also, to have a sober fountain day:

Youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/shoenice22

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001536158222

I must admit, he had me at the sacrifices that he made for the country, until I saw him demand fountain day and then saw a youtube page full of him eating glue and tampons. Go after your peers that destroy your reputation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exhibit A as to why these outraged students should go after their peers instead of the media:</p>
<p>Student (I give him my utmost respect for the fact that he is a veteran) plans to shackle himself to the fountain to force Glen Beck to apologize and also, to have a sober fountain day:</p>
<p>Youtube page<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/shoenice22" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/shoenice22</a></p>
<p>Facebook:<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001536158222" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001536158222</a></p>
<p>I must admit, he had me at the sacrifices that he made for the country, until I saw him demand fountain day and then saw a youtube page full of him eating glue and tampons. Go after your peers that destroy your reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: one embarrassed alum</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6703</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[one embarrassed alum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@103 I am sure they are less upset about the money than they would have been if you were allowed to &quot;party on&quot; as the sober saints you all claim to be. &quot;so there, are you happy now??&quot; Sounds so childish. Get angry with your peers that can&#039;t control themselves, not the community they destroy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@103 I am sure they are less upset about the money than they would have been if you were allowed to &#8220;party on&#8221; as the sober saints you all claim to be. &#8220;so there, are you happy now??&#8221; Sounds so childish. Get angry with your peers that can&#8217;t control themselves, not the community they destroy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6702</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The University has to pay $11,000 in last minute cancellation fees for Fountain Day.  I hope you&#039;re glad that&#039;s where your tax money is going.  To nothing.  Just like flushing 11 grand down the tubes.  Budget cuts are happening, but 11K is wasted.  Great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The University has to pay $11,000 in last minute cancellation fees for Fountain Day.  I hope you&#8217;re glad that&#8217;s where your tax money is going.  To nothing.  Just like flushing 11 grand down the tubes.  Budget cuts are happening, but 11K is wasted.  Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/03/21/fountain-day-2011/#comment-6701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lauren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#101- as far as associates who download porn/get a DWI, you can bet your arse all faculty/staff/officers are paying the price. No, they&#039;re not going to jail. (And neither are the innocent UA students) But through further computer restrictions and/or stricter standards and making lower BACs a firable offense for everyone. THESE are the kinds of &quot;unfair&quot; consequences that can AND DO happen in the real world.

My point really is, do you TRULY not understand why the college would cancel what has become a binge drinking holiday &amp; major headache for the administration after the huge PR disaster that was the SPD riots? If it was held, many kids would drink themselves into oblivion on and off-campus. UA didn&#039;t need a reason to cancel fountain day, the students have given them dozens over the years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#101- as far as associates who download porn/get a DWI, you can bet your arse all faculty/staff/officers are paying the price. No, they&#8217;re not going to jail. (And neither are the innocent UA students) But through further computer restrictions and/or stricter standards and making lower BACs a firable offense for everyone. THESE are the kinds of &#8220;unfair&#8221; consequences that can AND DO happen in the real world.</p>
<p>My point really is, do you TRULY not understand why the college would cancel what has become a binge drinking holiday &amp; major headache for the administration after the huge PR disaster that was the SPD riots? If it was held, many kids would drink themselves into oblivion on and off-campus. UA didn&#8217;t need a reason to cancel fountain day, the students have given them dozens over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredofthehorrorstories</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tiredofthehorrorstories]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Kevin. This is perhaps one of you most perverse, childish and pubesent aproaches to what you call journalism. Even Freud, stated &quot;Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar&quot;. You, on the otherhand, aparently have the need to read more into a photograph than is needed. I sumise this may be from latently supressed sexual desire. It would probably take years of rigourous and honest pstchoanalyisis to sort through your prudish concepts and beliefs.

Fo me, I see a photo of 2 people having a good time. One perhaps enjoying the cooling effect of water on a warm spring day in 2004. Prhaps you should have checke the weather forcast on that day prior to posting you latent sexual frustrations.  Seriously..go get laid dude. You obviously need it. 

Now as for &quot;Fountian Day&quot;. Well....... Suspending it based on the actions of a few irresponsible people, (not to mention off campus), I can come to no other conclusion that &quot; The U Albany Administrations actions to suspend a traditons such as fountian say, based on the actions of a few unruely students, in an off campus act is irresponsible and indecent.  I suggest, the next time a professor gets arrested for downloading child porn or gets a DWI and is fired as a result of their actions. Then ALL faculty and staff should pay the price and consequence. The same is what is being done with the suspension of fountian day.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Kevin. This is perhaps one of you most perverse, childish and pubesent aproaches to what you call journalism. Even Freud, stated &#8220;Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar&#8221;. You, on the otherhand, aparently have the need to read more into a photograph than is needed. I sumise this may be from latently supressed sexual desire. It would probably take years of rigourous and honest pstchoanalyisis to sort through your prudish concepts and beliefs.</p>
<p>Fo me, I see a photo of 2 people having a good time. One perhaps enjoying the cooling effect of water on a warm spring day in 2004. Prhaps you should have checke the weather forcast on that day prior to posting you latent sexual frustrations.  Seriously..go get laid dude. You obviously need it. </p>
<p>Now as for &#8220;Fountian Day&#8221;. Well&#8230;&#8230;. Suspending it based on the actions of a few irresponsible people, (not to mention off campus), I can come to no other conclusion that &#8221; The U Albany Administrations actions to suspend a traditons such as fountian say, based on the actions of a few unruely students, in an off campus act is irresponsible and indecent.  I suggest, the next time a professor gets arrested for downloading child porn or gets a DWI and is fired as a result of their actions. Then ALL faculty and staff should pay the price and consequence. The same is what is being done with the suspension of fountian day.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ualbany Student</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 06:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[saw this on fox23 news and I just could NOT agree more!! I have to repost it here!

“After the Shenanigans of Kegs &amp; Eggs, it is my belief that no more Fountain Day Celebrations should be celebrated, nor should any other celebration on the SUNY campus of Albany, or in the city for SUNY Students for that matter. Following this wonderful line of not thinking, I believe that no Albany Policemen should be allowed to drive. After all, Miller’s arrest proves they are all thoughtless, hypocritical, criminals and drunks. Sounds about right.”

“The response of these events by a local community that feels almost no outrage over its own problems was been so over the top that I took the first half of CezFox’s post literally. Many have called for much worse without any hint of irony! The way they tell it Albany without SUNY students would be paradise! Corrupt politicians, drunk drivers, gang violence, and economic meltdown can be shrugged off I guess, but parties by students who attend the same school as a small group of drunken criminals is OUTRAGEOUS!!! While there is definitely an unwarranted sense of entitlement about Fountain Day among some students, the bile released against them in the comments section of local media websites is stunning. Every upstate town with a SUNY has some grounds for complaint when it comes to the students- but few have home grown problems quite as awful or persistant as the capital region does. Complaining about kids from other parts of the state is much easier than fixing Albany’s much bigger problems. If it weren’t, more people would be doing the latter instead of the former.”

YESSSSS, sooooooooo true!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw this on fox23 news and I just could NOT agree more!! I have to repost it here!</p>
<p>“After the Shenanigans of Kegs &amp; Eggs, it is my belief that no more Fountain Day Celebrations should be celebrated, nor should any other celebration on the SUNY campus of Albany, or in the city for SUNY Students for that matter. Following this wonderful line of not thinking, I believe that no Albany Policemen should be allowed to drive. After all, Miller’s arrest proves they are all thoughtless, hypocritical, criminals and drunks. Sounds about right.”</p>
<p>“The response of these events by a local community that feels almost no outrage over its own problems was been so over the top that I took the first half of CezFox’s post literally. Many have called for much worse without any hint of irony! The way they tell it Albany without SUNY students would be paradise! Corrupt politicians, drunk drivers, gang violence, and economic meltdown can be shrugged off I guess, but parties by students who attend the same school as a small group of drunken criminals is OUTRAGEOUS!!! While there is definitely an unwarranted sense of entitlement about Fountain Day among some students, the bile released against them in the comments section of local media websites is stunning. Every upstate town with a SUNY has some grounds for complaint when it comes to the students- but few have home grown problems quite as awful or persistant as the capital region does. Complaining about kids from other parts of the state is much easier than fixing Albany’s much bigger problems. If it weren’t, more people would be doing the latter instead of the former.”</p>
<p>YESSSSS, sooooooooo true!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ualbany Student</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 06:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the argument, why should we be worried about fairness ever, life isn&#039;t fair &quot;wittle kiddies&quot;! ... hahaha, I hope a judge says that to you, as you get a 25-life sentence for a murder that you didn&#039;t commit. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the argument, why should we be worried about fairness ever, life isn&#8217;t fair &#8220;wittle kiddies&#8221;! &#8230; hahaha, I hope a judge says that to you, as you get a 25-life sentence for a murder that you didn&#8217;t commit. :)</p>
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