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	<title>Comments on: Jim Tressel and Ohio State are just a symptom of corrupt collegiate sports</title>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/06/01/jim-tressel-and-ohio-state-are-just-a-symptom-of-corrupt-collegiate-sports/#comment-7930</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like sports, Jakester. I played a sport at a D1 school. A club sport. We played teams from other colleges. We just didn&#039;t get scholarships or have special tutors or any other hand-holding.

The Yale Bowl was built in 1914 and their football team does just fine in it. You seem to have confused the real purpose of college with the encroachment of commerce and pimping athletes into the educational process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like sports, Jakester. I played a sport at a D1 school. A club sport. We played teams from other colleges. We just didn&#8217;t get scholarships or have special tutors or any other hand-holding.</p>
<p>The Yale Bowl was built in 1914 and their football team does just fine in it. You seem to have confused the real purpose of college with the encroachment of commerce and pimping athletes into the educational process.</p>
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		<title>By: BRL</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patricia - let&#039;s not compare UAlbany sports programs with those of Ohio State. UAlbany did NOT cut those programs in order to give more money to the athletic department - the athletic department is suffering from budget cuts just as much as the rest of the university. Do you know that the student-athlete population at UAlbany has a higher average GPA than the regular student body? Or that that trend is similar at most educational institutions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia &#8211; let&#8217;s not compare UAlbany sports programs with those of Ohio State. UAlbany did NOT cut those programs in order to give more money to the athletic department &#8211; the athletic department is suffering from budget cuts just as much as the rest of the university. Do you know that the student-athlete population at UAlbany has a higher average GPA than the regular student body? Or that that trend is similar at most educational institutions?</p>
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		<title>By: Flurries</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flurries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew something was terribly wrong with OSU when I heard the University Prez or AD (can&#039;t remember which, but they&#039;re both supposed to be Tressel&#039;s BOSS) say, when questioned about the scandal created by Tressel&#039;s behavior, &quot;I just hope he doesn&#039;t fire ME!&quot;. WTF?! I&#039;m not naive enough to think that&#039;s the only place this goes on though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew something was terribly wrong with OSU when I heard the University Prez or AD (can&#8217;t remember which, but they&#8217;re both supposed to be Tressel&#8217;s BOSS) say, when questioned about the scandal created by Tressel&#8217;s behavior, &#8220;I just hope he doesn&#8217;t fire ME!&#8221;. WTF?! I&#8217;m not naive enough to think that&#8217;s the only place this goes on though.</p>
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		<title>By: jakester</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/06/01/jim-tressel-and-ohio-state-are-just-a-symptom-of-corrupt-collegiate-sports/#comment-7927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jakester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gman - Unless you know a construction company that works for free you already know the answer. Do you believe scholls should be playing in hte same stadium/gyms for the 50&#039;s 60&#039;s? No other teams in the world do, well except the Red Sox and Cubs...

Tuition is probably linked more to the economy, inflation, and teacher/admistrative salaries and benefits, than sports. 

Don&#039;t go to a big D1 school if you don&#039;t like sports/issues.
 
It would be interesting to see a survey of students, who picked their schools based on sports teams, name recognition and party index vs how many soley for classes.

http://kaarme.com/Most_Profitable_College_Athletic_Programs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gman &#8211; Unless you know a construction company that works for free you already know the answer. Do you believe scholls should be playing in hte same stadium/gyms for the 50&#8217;s 60&#8217;s? No other teams in the world do, well except the Red Sox and Cubs&#8230;</p>
<p>Tuition is probably linked more to the economy, inflation, and teacher/admistrative salaries and benefits, than sports. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t go to a big D1 school if you don&#8217;t like sports/issues.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to see a survey of students, who picked their schools based on sports teams, name recognition and party index vs how many soley for classes.</p>
<p><a href="http://kaarme.com/Most_Profitable_College_Athletic_Programs" rel="nofollow">http://kaarme.com/Most_Profitable_College_Athletic_Programs</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jakester proves my point.  Too much emphasis is placed on sports in our society and people wonder why we score so low in comparison?  Education must be a basic.  I am 44.  When I was growing up the TV was called the idiot box.  My parents were right.  Perhaps more people need to turn off the box and turn to the books and turn on their minds.  Take classes and enrich their minds with knowledge rather than sports stats.  Certainly partake in sports for personal fitness, but sports should not be the focus of a college education.  Monies should offset tuition costs for all and not just a select few, or to build high tech stadiums - build high tech classrooms instead.   Refocus folks!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jakester proves my point.  Too much emphasis is placed on sports in our society and people wonder why we score so low in comparison?  Education must be a basic.  I am 44.  When I was growing up the TV was called the idiot box.  My parents were right.  Perhaps more people need to turn off the box and turn to the books and turn on their minds.  Take classes and enrich their minds with knowledge rather than sports stats.  Certainly partake in sports for personal fitness, but sports should not be the focus of a college education.  Monies should offset tuition costs for all and not just a select few, or to build high tech stadiums &#8211; build high tech classrooms instead.   Refocus folks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They don&#039;t call it the NC$$ for nothing, folks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t call it the NC$$ for nothing, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Jakester, if all those millions benefit all the students, how come tuition goes up 7-10% every year, and the football teams get new multi-million dollar year-round practice palaces?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Jakester, if all those millions benefit all the students, how come tuition goes up 7-10% every year, and the football teams get new multi-million dollar year-round practice palaces?</p>
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		<title>By: jakester</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jakester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patricia, it&#039;s funny but a lot of wealthy alumni give huge money to schools BECAUSE their athletic programs do well. TV rights to college football/basketball bring in millions to the schools that benefit all the students. Put a debate and a chess match on prime time TV and see what you bring in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia, it&#8217;s funny but a lot of wealthy alumni give huge money to schools BECAUSE their athletic programs do well. TV rights to college football/basketball bring in millions to the schools that benefit all the students. Put a debate and a chess match on prime time TV and see what you bring in.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In days of yore, of course, college was for gentlemen (and the occasional lady), the scions of substance. A classical education wasn&#039;t intended to advance some poor prole schlub in the marketplace - that place for the already affluent scholar was already assured.

Mind you, that model started to shift in the early 1900s, and a few of our cultural heroes from modest circumstances went to college while working themselves through. Then the post-WWII GI Bill absolutely exploded the college population, and the children of the veterans were just expected to go as a matter of course. There was now this wonderful big educational infrastructure and as a society we decided that one HAD to have a &quot;college education&quot; to be a respectable middle-class (or better yet, upper middle-class) American. And voila, what had been an idyllic retreat for the children of the aristocracy was now a product, the perfect product, in fact. And what better way to promote that product than sports, the things people watch on TV?

The creme de la creme of our colleges have never had to use sports as a marketing vehicle (the Yale Bowl, for example, is 90% empty at every football game except the Harvard game). And smaller select colleges such as Williams have good athletics programs, but they are rolled into the package of overall achievement. It&#039;s the intellectual second-tier schools that need to pimp themselves. It&#039;s nothing new, and it ain&#039;t going away until the entire &quot;you must go to college&quot; ethos is blown to hell.

Thirty-plus years ago, I took a course called &quot;Philosophy of Sport&quot; at a regional football factory in the Southeast. I was a club lacrosse player, meaning I had no coaching apparatus watching over me and no university investment in my sport. Most my classmates were football players, in whom the university had invested a lot in order to sell the university as a leading-edge place to learn. More than one of these fellas had trouble reading aloud. I had already received a regular paycheck for sportswriting. I got the lowest grade in the class. I was shocked, shocked, and remain traumatized by the whole sordid mess. Jack Nicklaus is still supporting Tressel, and as long as guys like Jack aren&#039;t calling for the demolition of the current structure, I doubt anybody&#039;ll listen to you or me, Local Treasure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In days of yore, of course, college was for gentlemen (and the occasional lady), the scions of substance. A classical education wasn&#8217;t intended to advance some poor prole schlub in the marketplace &#8211; that place for the already affluent scholar was already assured.</p>
<p>Mind you, that model started to shift in the early 1900s, and a few of our cultural heroes from modest circumstances went to college while working themselves through. Then the post-WWII GI Bill absolutely exploded the college population, and the children of the veterans were just expected to go as a matter of course. There was now this wonderful big educational infrastructure and as a society we decided that one HAD to have a &#8220;college education&#8221; to be a respectable middle-class (or better yet, upper middle-class) American. And voila, what had been an idyllic retreat for the children of the aristocracy was now a product, the perfect product, in fact. And what better way to promote that product than sports, the things people watch on TV?</p>
<p>The creme de la creme of our colleges have never had to use sports as a marketing vehicle (the Yale Bowl, for example, is 90% empty at every football game except the Harvard game). And smaller select colleges such as Williams have good athletics programs, but they are rolled into the package of overall achievement. It&#8217;s the intellectual second-tier schools that need to pimp themselves. It&#8217;s nothing new, and it ain&#8217;t going away until the entire &#8220;you must go to college&#8221; ethos is blown to hell.</p>
<p>Thirty-plus years ago, I took a course called &#8220;Philosophy of Sport&#8221; at a regional football factory in the Southeast. I was a club lacrosse player, meaning I had no coaching apparatus watching over me and no university investment in my sport. Most my classmates were football players, in whom the university had invested a lot in order to sell the university as a leading-edge place to learn. More than one of these fellas had trouble reading aloud. I had already received a regular paycheck for sportswriting. I got the lowest grade in the class. I was shocked, shocked, and remain traumatized by the whole sordid mess. Jack Nicklaus is still supporting Tressel, and as long as guys like Jack aren&#8217;t calling for the demolition of the current structure, I doubt anybody&#8217;ll listen to you or me, Local Treasure.</p>
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		<title>By: EZ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The dreaded SI Cover curse bites again. Maybe next week they can put Lance Armstrong back on the cover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dreaded SI Cover curse bites again. Maybe next week they can put Lance Armstrong back on the cover.</p>
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