Comments on: Businesses their own worst enemy, here and downstate http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/ Musing & misadventures of a writer, comedian, and local treasure Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:17:00 -0500 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: luvpudders http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8988 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:16:13 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8988 It depends on the type of business. No one should bite off more than they can chew–that’s Rule #1. As I shop and/or drive around, it’s painfully obvious how some businesses could improve with not much money. Unfortunately, when you try to voice an opinion, people look at you like you have two heads.

]]> By: Victoria Roth http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8987 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:17:04 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8987 Damn it Kevin, you got me! How can I possibly argue that?

]]> By: Kevin Marshall http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8986 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:54:15 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8986 Victoria - I just love America more than you do.

]]> By: Victoria Roth http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8985 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:40:11 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8985 Well for the record, I do very much understand the frustration involved in trying to have a focused, coherent discussion with others sometimes.

]]> By: Kevin Marshall http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8984 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:51:07 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8984 Victoria – re: raising the bar. Very fair point, Victoria, and one I absolutely should have raised and in my haste did not. For that, I was wrong.

]]> By: Roz http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8983 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:41:39 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8983 Liz, I agree with Kevin. If you agree with me, then you agree with Kevin!

Still awaiting your answer to question #51 on your blog.

Liz? Liz? Bueller? Bueller?

]]> By: Victoria Roth http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8982 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:31:54 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8982 I feel obligated to start with a short discalimer: I don’t think it’s right (or productive) to call Liz things like “crazy unreasonable person”. Let’s perhaps strive to set the bar higher here than it is on other blogs ;-)

But you all make great critiques about her approach to whatever point she was trying to make.
Cihan, exellent point in #15. Shall we keep those standards in mind the next time we see a critical opinion of Obama?

]]> By: Cihan http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8981 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:48:46 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8981 “I was saying that it is hard to be a business owner in upstate NY- especially starting out.”

Liz, this wasn’t the actual focus of what you were trying to say. It was more like:

Kevin Marshall is not allowed to criticize small business owners because he isn’t one, and being a small business owner is hard.

That’s interesting, I guess I should go and say that you have no right to criticize President Obama constantly, because you aren’t the President and you have only the faintest notion of what it really takes to run a functioning country. But what you say? You say that you’re an intelligent and thoughtful citizen that informs herself and should be allowed to have such opinions? Well by your own logic, that shouldn’t matter, your criticisms must not be valid.

You came here (a blog I don’t suspect you care for much) to do some soapboxing, but I guess it didn’t really work out for you.

]]> By: Roz http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8980 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:43:45 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8980 Liz, you just made my point by your silly remark about the Great Pumpkin. You dodged that question once again, because you can’t answer it. You can’t answer it, because then you would have to admit that you are simply prejudiced against homosexuals and that you are cherry-picking things out of the Bible.

If you agree with what I said, then why did you go after Kevin in the first place?

]]> By: Richard Lewis http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2011/09/12/businesses-their-own-worst-enemy-here-and-downstate/#comment-8979 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:53:32 +0000 http://blog.timesunion.com/marshall/?p=6064#comment-8979 Liz,

An “ad hominem” is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it. The ad hominem is normally described as a logical fallacy.

A “straw man” is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position. To “attack a straw man” is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the “straw man”), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

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