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	<title>Comments on: The More Things Change -or- Leave Those Kids Alone, Will Ya?</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Thayer</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmarshallonline.com/blog/2012/08/14/the-more-things-change-or-leave-those-kids-alone-will-ya/#comment-9635</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TV has always been entertainment and information. That was it&#039;s purpose from the beginning and it still remains. The quality spins out of control thanks to the &quot;need&quot; for 867 channels of 24 hour programming. There seemed to be a bit more restraint in the early 60&#039;s, which obviously gave way in the 70&#039;s. We&#039;ll NEVER see the likes of All In The Family with its upfront, rampant racism and biting satire ever again (though the animated Boondocks is very close). To that extent, we&#039;ll also never see sincere programming like Leave It To Beaver. People find that small-town, family values stuff to be hokey these days.

As for these so called role models - I consider them all as role models because they create a slew of imitators. I mean, that&#039;s the crux of what a celebrity role model does, right? There are people looking to do anything to be famous, and the world we live in seems to welcome their idiotic exploits with open arms. From YouTube clip shows like Tosh.0 to bullshit talent contests like X Factor/The Voice/American Idol/So You Think You Can Dance?, the country is overrun with garbage. Now just add in 90% of History Channel, Discovery Channel and TLC&#039;s programming - you&#039;ll see the frightening trend. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a fictional construct at all. 

I will admit I do watch Tosh.0 - I like the sarcastic commentary to people doing stupid things. It&#039;s what I imagine America&#039;s Funniest Home Videos would be like with Bob Saget still as host.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV has always been entertainment and information. That was it&#8217;s purpose from the beginning and it still remains. The quality spins out of control thanks to the &#8220;need&#8221; for 867 channels of 24 hour programming. There seemed to be a bit more restraint in the early 60&#8217;s, which obviously gave way in the 70&#8217;s. We&#8217;ll NEVER see the likes of All In The Family with its upfront, rampant racism and biting satire ever again (though the animated Boondocks is very close). To that extent, we&#8217;ll also never see sincere programming like Leave It To Beaver. People find that small-town, family values stuff to be hokey these days.</p>
<p>As for these so called role models &#8211; I consider them all as role models because they create a slew of imitators. I mean, that&#8217;s the crux of what a celebrity role model does, right? There are people looking to do anything to be famous, and the world we live in seems to welcome their idiotic exploits with open arms. From YouTube clip shows like Tosh.0 to bullshit talent contests like X Factor/The Voice/American Idol/So You Think You Can Dance?, the country is overrun with garbage. Now just add in 90% of History Channel, Discovery Channel and TLC&#8217;s programming &#8211; you&#8217;ll see the frightening trend. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a fictional construct at all. </p>
<p>I will admit I do watch Tosh.0 &#8211; I like the sarcastic commentary to people doing stupid things. It&#8217;s what I imagine America&#8217;s Funniest Home Videos would be like with Bob Saget still as host.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Eric Smith</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was a kid, I had to walk eight miles in the snow, uphill, both ways, to get on the internet. And when I got there, the internet hadn&#039;t been invented yet. So, you know, character.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid, I had to walk eight miles in the snow, uphill, both ways, to get on the internet. And when I got there, the internet hadn&#8217;t been invented yet. So, you know, character.  </p>
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		<title>By: kevinmarshall</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That presumes that television ever had a higher standard than it does now. The presentation&#039;s different and the restrictions are loosened (I don&#039;t think this is necessarily a bad thing), but the quality control or lack thereof is still largely intact. If anyone thinks otherwise, they must not have seen very much of the stuff from the 1960s and the 1970s beyond the occasional &quot;Nick at Nite&quot; rerun.


&quot;the wrong people are being hailed as role models&quot; - I hear this often and I&#039;m confounded by it. Who does this refer to? Are you saying that reality stars are treated or presented as role models for children? Because they clearly are not. They are treated as anything but role models, especially in the manner they are presented in the shows themselves. If anything the problem with individual representation on television is just the opposite, in that it edits and presents the participants in the most humiliating manner possible, putting them into a pillory and begging us to throw verbal tomatoes at them. If they are outwardly looked upon as role models, it is by a small number of people; the occasional rake has always been with us. The exception is not the rule. 


It is hard for me to take this concern seriously at all, then, because it&#039;s based on a fictional construct. Just because a figure exists and gets media coverage does not mean s/he exists or functions as a role model in a society. You cannot ignore the context of their presentation and also the actual impact they have when making that claim, otherwise you might as well claim that Ahmadinejad or the Aurora shooter are role models because they, too, are shown on TV frequently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That presumes that television ever had a higher standard than it does now. The presentation&#8217;s different and the restrictions are loosened (I don&#8217;t think this is necessarily a bad thing), but the quality control or lack thereof is still largely intact. If anyone thinks otherwise, they must not have seen very much of the stuff from the 1960s and the 1970s beyond the occasional &#8220;Nick at Nite&#8221; rerun.</p>
<p>&#8220;the wrong people are being hailed as role models&#8221; &#8211; I hear this often and I&#8217;m confounded by it. Who does this refer to? Are you saying that reality stars are treated or presented as role models for children? Because they clearly are not. They are treated as anything but role models, especially in the manner they are presented in the shows themselves. If anything the problem with individual representation on television is just the opposite, in that it edits and presents the participants in the most humiliating manner possible, putting them into a pillory and begging us to throw verbal tomatoes at them. If they are outwardly looked upon as role models, it is by a small number of people; the occasional rake has always been with us. The exception is not the rule. </p>
<p>It is hard for me to take this concern seriously at all, then, because it&#8217;s based on a fictional construct. Just because a figure exists and gets media coverage does not mean s/he exists or functions as a role model in a society. You cannot ignore the context of their presentation and also the actual impact they have when making that claim, otherwise you might as well claim that Ahmadinejad or the Aurora shooter are role models because they, too, are shown on TV frequently.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Thayer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think part of the &quot;dumbing down of America&quot; view comes from the overwhelming popularity of socially detrimental programming and the inability to curb exposure to such idiocy. The sheer stupidity of most so-called &quot;reality&quot; television is crippling this nation&#039;s future by glorifying actions and behavior that used to be condemned.

Do I think the future is doomed? Not necessarily, but the wrong people are being hailed as role models. Celebrate the ones who promote a beneficial contribution to humanity. Ignore those who are just making noise and taking up space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the &#8220;dumbing down of America&#8221; view comes from the overwhelming popularity of socially detrimental programming and the inability to curb exposure to such idiocy. The sheer stupidity of most so-called &#8220;reality&#8221; television is crippling this nation&#8217;s future by glorifying actions and behavior that used to be condemned.</p>
<p>Do I think the future is doomed? Not necessarily, but the wrong people are being hailed as role models. Celebrate the ones who promote a beneficial contribution to humanity. Ignore those who are just making noise and taking up space.</p>
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